Half and half isnt available in Australia, so, in our first L. reuteri yogurt post,we did our best to recreate half and half by combining full cream milk and full fat pure cream. Ill give it a few days and hopefully, someone else may come onto this blog and tell us about how they made Biogaia Gastrus yogurt I am particularly interested in the anorexigenic effect.. You stated, I steeped whole oats in this quart of yogurt. Ive been looking through the ingredients and it has hydrogenated oil in it, it is well known that these managed substances are very harmful to our gut biome, also it does not say if the sweetener is plant based which will be fine, or the other, I must say these ingredients make me very hesitant and will not partake until I am reassured otherwise, can anyone help me out here because I would love to give this a try. I ordered the LR Superfood and L.Gasseri Superfood starters from Culture Food Life, and the instructions that come with the starters say to ferment both at 100 degrees. John M stated, Thank you for your 2 cents worth. An investigation has been opened on gaining insight on these questions. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). It could be something more serious, like ulcerative colitis or Crohn's disease. (I drink it, but . ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). Davis started his own wheat-free experiment and asked his overweight, diabetes -prone patients to do the same. If we can develop some context here, I can at least make informed inquiries. The effects could be due to that, and/or the fact that yogurt making also results in exogenous production of strain metabolites. Once the process finishes,, how much yogurt did you end up with? Danielle Rigney wrote: When is the ideal time to separate the whey from the curds? Jo-Anne stated: One last question do you put the pot that you showed us in the picture of your yogurt in the stove? That doesnt seem to be the question you are asking about.. I read about the whey and bacteria on a Making Yougurt at Home website, and it was contained in a readers comment, so there is no real link. how prompt is the reaction? Keep in mind that the point of the recipes is the CFUs, and not yogurt perse. If store-bought, half and half milk is available in your area, we recommend you follow Dr Davisoriginal method that does not heat the milk. re: I am following the Listen to Your Gut protocol and it warns not to consume prebiotic fiber if you have intestinal issues like mine.. but helped). what yogurt machine, nominal temp, temp regulation? To Maura: If your instant pot doesnt get it up to 180 you can set it on saute to get it to 180 but be sure to whisk it during and always right before taking the temp because it does get hotter on the bottom. Put in machinepulled off cup after 12 hours [kinda resembled slightly thickened milk at that point] and let the machine go for another 12 hours. Add the crushed probiotic powder to the milk & inulinslurry and mix in. I presume thats their Whole Goat Milk, and not the powdered or evaporated. Just yours, or was only yours tested? http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/Gyrobob_theOriginal/Healthy%20Stuff/yogurt%20on%20red%20plate%2001a_zpsnoe8ktvj.jpg. (And, to be sure, we really dont know what the optimal generational strategies are yet.). The low temp just slows growth (but invites contamination). ?, re: Can I get an unflavored tablet/capsule?. It is necessary topurchaseorganic milk to guarantee no antibiotics are present. Its just the yogurt. Sounds like that machine was optimized for just Joes yogurt recipe. re: I needed to stop yogurt after 30 hours. Sam A wrote: It seems as if BioGaia has changed the formula or a large batch of their stock has been exposed to heat and doesnt come alive., Where did you order it from? Dee wrote: My yogurt maker instructions say 8-10 hours is good, with 12 hours being the most you would need.. re: Is it possible to be allergic to yogurt but not other dairy?, I doubt anyone can guess usefully on that without more info. The water must not be filled over the tall line indicated on the inside wall of the maker. So lets list some of the tripping points to help avoid ending up with a liquid mess that fails to yield all the wonderful benefits of this microbe when restored to your microbiome. Ive been using 24-36 for dairy-based Gastrus yogurt. I wonder if I could tolerate this? strains together as one ingredient, that means the oil cant be more than 33% of the 700mg (233mg, and is likely a whole lot less). Its also not fully clear, in the case of this yogurt, whether the benefits seen are primarily due to CFU amplification, exogenous metabolite generation, or some combination thereof; and then, what an ideal portion size is. I have just put the whey into ice cube trays to save the cultures for the next time Im making yogurt. You can actively cool it by filling a sink, or bowl with cold water and setting the pot of heated milk in the cold water. Dr. Yes & no. If they tested in rodents to determine Tolerable Upper Limit (of just the CFUs), Ive not seen that data. 1) Has anyone on this blog so far experienced the Biogaia Gastrus tablets and their Complete shut-down of appetite, an anorexigenic effect? My machine cant handle the quantities youve had success with. Should I have just taken 1/4 cup of this runny mushy goop and tried to make a whole new batch from that? Any advice is so appreciated. Kinda cheesy tasting. I crushed the Gaia tabs with mortar and pestle. I have started a second batch in the yogurt maker with the cup I drew off at the 12 hour mark. Dont know yet. Davis is a cardiologist, #1 New York Times best-selling author, and health crusader whose best-selling books include the Wheat Belly series, Undoctored, as well as his newest book Super Gut.We dig into some spicy and timely topics here today, including What it looks like when Doctors get blacklisted by corporate media and Big Pharma An easy way to drastically increase testosterone How to grow and treat your microbiome like a garden Restoring beneficial gut microbes with delicious homemade yogurt (I can vouch for this) The link between mental health and your gut How to minimize your exposure to glyphosate And tons moreRead the show notes: https://fatburningman.com/dr-william-davis-how-to-heal-your-gut-with-delicious-homemade-yogurt/Learn more and support Dr. William Davis at https://DrDavisInfiniteHealth.comJoin The Wild Guild and get freebies on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/abeljamesFollow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/fatburnmanLet's be friends on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fatburningman/Like the show on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/fatburningman And click here for your free Fat-Burning Kit: http://fatburningman.com/bonus You can build REAL momentum and achieve spectacular results for your clients, patients, and community: Substantial weight loss Lower blood sugarsmany type 2 diabetics become non-diabetics Wheat Belly / Undoctored covers a lot more than NGNS (or NSNG, which seems to be the more common abbreviation, and is strongly identified with Vinnie Tortorich). And because people have done it by mistake, dont use a commercial yogurt as the substrate. ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). Make your own L. reuteri yogurt - Dr. William Davis Not sure if theres anything in itnothing on the label. If the process needs more bugs, you need to start over. re: Once the process finishes,, how much yogurt did you end up with?. Let's make Dr Davis yogurt Part 1 - Enjoy! - YouTube thats been in the fridge for 8 hours. Looks like instant pot (small one at 3 quarts) works well here. For the batches Ive made, between 24 and 36 hours, with the starter saved off at about 12hours. Dr. Davis takes the time to answer questions, to share successful examples and suggest alternative paths that can support you in your . What strategies are needed to maximize the yield from a box of Gastrus? Do make sure the coconut milk contains only coconut (and perhaps water). If you like you Chobani, you can keep your Chobani. Its cultures make a fine yogurt, but a different animal from the experiment were running here. Without heating, our first attempts with homemade half and half milk produced fragile and thin yogurt with lots of separated whey and the cream content set on top. Therefore, this it really a food hacking exercise that can result in inconsistent outcomes. My yogurt maker instructions say 8-10 hours is good, with 12 hours being the most you would need. Do you stir it in, or pour it all off?. Was 108-109 at that point. The rest was a semi-solid disk of small-curd cheese-like substance. ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). 9. A possible cause: some internet sources suggest a batch of starter might lose its potency after four or five days in the fridge. I made mine with a quart of full cream and a quart of 1/2 & 1/2. If a pasteurization cycle is run, its important to do that before adding the culture, and indeed, to make sure that the temperature of the liquid back back down to 110F before adding the culture (or you will kill the culture). Since our goats are out of milk now, once our frozen store is used up, Ill be trying mail-order powdered goat milk. Barb has overcome her own gut health issues through healthy eating. Would it be safe to assume youve seen no previous such indications (such as via the Prebiotic Fiber Test)? Joan wrote: Theres so much talk about yogurt being good for you but I have always found it makes me sick.. Should I try 1 qt whole milk + cup HWC + cup starter from previous batch + 1 Tbsp Inulin + 1 tab Gastrus? Related questions are: how many generations can be fermented from an initial batch? inulin, sugar)? As I mentioned earlier, weve made conventional yogurt with goat milk using pretty primitive equipment. The yogurt is thick, delicious, and contains a marked increase in bacterial counts, though I have not yet performed a formal count. If you dont want to use inulin, unmodified potato starch works. Dr. William Davis is a cardiologist and New York Times #1 bestselling author of the Wheat Belly book series. The cholesterol house-of-cards crumbles further, The Unintended Consequences of Low-carb Diets, by Dr. Davis | Jul 7, 2021 | Diet and Lifestyle | 29 comments. ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). John M wrote: I used full fat 4% whole fat Chobani Greek yogurt as my starter.. Set to what temperature? It smelled wretched. He is Chief Medical Officer and co-founder of Realize Therapeutics Corp. that is developing innovative solutions for the disrupted human microbiome and author of the book Super Gut. It smelled extremely tangy and cheesy. ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). Dont get too caught up on the precise temperature. And thats part of why I asked about the dietary context. Dr. William Davis' Wheat Belly Plan for Weight Loss- Woman's World Do you have any suggestions? (We are not actually making yogurt by the standard FDA definition; we are simply fermenting dairybut it looks and tastes like yogurt so we call it yogurt even though it is much more powerful.) This "yogurt" fermented with two unconventional strains of Lactobacillus reuteri achieve effects that include: Smoothing of skin wrinkles due to an explosion of dermal collagen Accelerated healing, cutting healing time in almost half Simple and convenient, but precise. Want to boost the libido, sexual performance, and orgasmic inte. I have made many batches that turned out great, so I am really disappointed. yogurt, but the results were entirely unsatisfactory. But frankly, when I cant find suitable H&H, Ijust use half cream + half milk. Temperatures above 43 C will kill the L. reuteri strains. Im also a bit unclear on the exact role of inulin here, but can speculate that because its a fructose polymer, and fructose is not a substrate preferred by L.reuteri, that would also be expected to extend fermentation time. Whitney Benefield wrote: I used the CEC LR Superfood Starter. This prevents clumping of the prebiotic fiber. That way I can completely ignore it all day, while the oven stays at a steady 110F. When you make a half gallon at a time do you add more than 10 probiotics? We recommend using a double boiler pot filled with boiling water. He is Medical Director and . by directly consuming 100tablets per day, then yes indeed, these other ingredients might be a concern. When I need to revert to tablets anymore, I order direct from the US distributor (Everidis), and try to do so in cooler months. Dr Davis who first came up with the idea of L Reuteri yogurt, himself has changed his recipe a number of times to try to create a more consistent outcome. Dr. Davis Infinite Health - YouTube Both my wife and I have noticed our hair getting thicker which is great but a blood test showed my red blood cells a bit out of whack. Ill be making some myself. Dr. William Davis: How to Heal Your Gut with Delicious Homemade Yogurt Because I used a quart of half and half and ended up with about 1.5 cups og greek style yogurt. This yields a thicker Greek-style yogurt. Ive been pulling off cup for this, which may be more than is needed. Steve Kludt wrote: I have been on a strict No Grain and No Sugar diet for more than 3 years. . ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). The non-microbial ingredients in the tablets are irrelevant after the first batch of yogurt. And our result with that is about half yogurt that is thick enough to not pass through a wire mesh strainer, and about half a creamy liquid (presumed to be whey) that does pass. This strain of probiotic sounds miraculous and I really want to try it, especially for the oxytocin effect, but this experiment was a total fail on my part. re: Also, why do you incubate for 24 or more hours?, See an earlier reply for my personal view on that. Including me. And then, a prompt reaction tends to suggest that youve got a dysbiosis. I purchased a starter culture from Cultured Food Life by Cutting Edge Cultures after hearing Dr. Davis on Donna Schwenks podcast. Heres the system I use. I tried to make a quart following directions on this site and after 24 hours it separated into a LOT of whey with a little not-great-looking yogurt on top. One tablet consists of a minimum of 200 million live L. reuteri Gastrus. I rotate making 1 qt. Incredible SEXUAL VITALITY BOOSTER for MEN & WOMEN - How to Make Dr It is also possible to freeze a portion of yogurt or whey and use at a later time. Its not to sweeten the product, as the sugar is expected to be gone at the conclusion of the fermentation. I really need to dig up that paper on half-life, but my guess is that to maintain a gut population of these L.reuteri strains would require ingestion perhaps as often as every 4days. I do cover the pot, though, with one thin layer of saran wrap. re: My question is, what does this mean and is it good or bad?, Insufficient data so far, and I havent studied lymphocytes at all (its not a marker we routinely track in the program). re: I decided on a whim to add a tablespoon of dextrose (glucose)., Please do report the results, success or fail. (Or do I need to worry about boiling the container in which I make the slurry?). Do you get a lot of whey? When a company patents a product doesnt that mean they had to change its original structure in some way in order to get the patent? re: Also, what does contamination look or smell like?, Pink or orange spots. - I started doing that (instead of the lid) because the lid adds almost 2 of height to the pot, creating some clearance issues in my fridge. If you have been otherwise doing the Undoctored or 2014+ Wheat Belly program, Im a bit surprised to hear that you didnt have some inulin on hand. We have been consuming both as well. re: I used Meyenburg goat milk from grocery.. Which of these would be the suspect, if not both, isnt clear. The only reason I am doing this is for the health benefits brought about by the 6475, so I add a couple crushed tablets with every subsequent batch just to make sure the 6475 strain is maintained. In Dr. Davis recipe there are three ingredients, prebiotic fiber starter tabs or 2 tablespoons of yogurt whey from previous batch in a quart of half-and-half or coconut milk. We run one anyway. Stir in remaining half-and-half or other liquid. Elements that might have the most bearing on gut motility would include: grain free, magnesium restoration, daily prebiotic fiber, and ample hydration. Not sure whether those matter, but I have suspicion the UHT might raise incubation time. Maybe I just need to regroup and purchase the tablets. It does not appear so, short of ordering isolated Lactobacillus reuteri ATCC PTA 6475 as research material (and I havent researched how that would be done). One of the things it does is to increase and maintain the mucus layer in the gut and strengthen the integrity of the gut lining. Dr. Davis is a cardiologist, #1 New York Times best-selling author, and health crusader whose best-selling books include the " Wheat Belly" series, " Undoctored," as well as his newest book " Super Gut." We dig into some spicy and timely topics here today, including What it looks like when Doctors get blacklisted by corporate media and Big Pharma Its hard to deny its worth getting into you! Perhaps your mom lost this microbe and was thereby unable to provide it to you via passage through the birth canal and/or breastfeeding, or perhaps you were delivered by C-section and bottle-fed with little opportunity to obtain it. Upset stomach,gas, etc. Also note; we have spoken directly with BioGaia in Sweden who are the manufactures of the L Reuteri probiotic, and they themselves strongly point out that L Reuteri was not designed or developed for making yogurt. I recall that Dr. Mercola had this done with some of his sauerkraut and the lab found that it contained 10 trillion CFUs per 4-6 ounces (if memory serves correctly). Well, with my current process (using 2 thawed ice cubes worth of saved frozen yogurt or whey, per quart, as starter), Im getting almost zero whey to drain off. Thanks Bob. Whether to consume the whey is your call. Dr. William Davis is a cardiologist and New York Times #1 bestselling author of the Wheat Belly book series. What should I look out for that implies failure? I avoid using it, except where required, as it tend to congeal on the bottom. (Our last flow cytometry run yielded a live count of 262 billion.) If it were possible for them to make a take-once preparation, their shareholders would freak out if they did. Since reading about the wonders of homemade yogurt on this site, I have been doing a lot of it at home. Pour the milk into a large clean saucepan.2. I dont mind making expensive yogurts but if the home made yogurt doesnt work why bother? Make sure the inulin and the crushed-to-a-fine-powder Gastrus tablet are dissolved completely before you add them to the 110F milk/HWC mixture. Also, I have no familiarity with how promptly reactions occur with the various common dairy intolerances (and search pulls up too many results not on topic). If your efforts fail to yield thick yogurt, check the temperature of your device. Inner Circle strategies accomplish dramatic changes in health: reduced inflammation, reversed insulin resistance that could lead to diabetes, and many other benefits. These are just the protein parts of each grains gluten. Its mere serendipity that they do, as many unit-dose probiotics make less than ideal yogurt cultures. Did test Instant pot temps with water bath with reliable thermometer. All I get is a liquid. He is Chief Medical Officer and co-founder of Realize Therapeutics Corp. that is developing innovative solutions for the disrupted human microbiome and author of the book Super Gut. 11. re: I dont understand the 24-36 hours mentioned here.. Because the most robust data were generated using the ATCC PTA 6475 strain of L. reuteri (and, to a lesser extent, the DSM 17938 strain), I have been confining my efforts to this strain. Can someone clarify if the yogurt is recommended for a BC survivor? Am I completely correct in that assumption? Today's wheat is different from the wheat of 1960, thanks to extensive genetic manipulations introduced to increase yield-per-acre. Why arent we seeing any of the benefits? I needed to stop yogurt after 30 hours (needed to leave house unexpectedly for rest of day) but everything looked good poured off about 2 cups of liquid, which left behind yogurt that was soft but pretty much in one piece. We have made conventional yogurt with their milk previously. Dr. Daviss recipe calls for 10 crushed Biogaia tablets in one quart of half and half for his first batch. This is one of the most powerful sexual vitality boosters any man or woman can take period! Even my current wife likes this stuff; she normally is violently opposed to anything Wheat Belly. . I found that 12 hrs at 110F is about right. Place the saucepan on the stove top and heat the milk to 82 C (180 F) Use a thermometer for an accurate reading.3. Don't use a blender with your yogurt, as this kills the living microbes. Or what else would you suggest? Check the container Nutrition Facts. Undoctored - Dr. Davis' Lifestyle for Total Health It is our belief at Luvele that the combination of ingredients in BioGaias L Reuteri probiotic are not always equal from tablet to tablet. I recommend you fill it up with water, let it sit for 1/2 an hour, and measure the temp of the water. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). An do you leave the lid on?. You might be the first to ask about the oil, so on we go. Starting from tablets also has the challenge that its actually not all that many CFUs. Dont stir the mixture while it is fermenting, as this increases separation. Their business arrangement with Biogaia may preclude it. John M wrote: now embraces what Dr Jason Fung has been preaching that eating fat does not make one fat.. According to this data, L. reuteri ATCC PTA 6475 ferments prebiotic fructans very poorly: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3084715/. See figure S7 of that research (the darker bar is the 6475 strain). In general: because some of the strains being explored in the program express more bacteriocins than others, and might suppress the benefits of the other strain(s) present. That wouldnt be my presumptive explanation here. But is that the ideal dose? I whisk slowly to make a slurry before adding the rest of the liquid. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). Whitney Benefield wrote: I am having trouble getting my yogurt to be the right consistency., re: starter culture from Cultured Food Life by Cutting Edge Cultures. When I said, I recommend you fill it up with water, let it sit for 1/2 an hour, and measure the temp of the water., What I should have said was, I recommend you fill it up with water, set it on 110F, let it sit for 1/2 an hour, and measure the temp of the water.. L.reuteri is expected to ferment at temps up to 106F at least. Very odd. Measured temp after 1 boil; it was steaming, but my meat thermometer read only about 140. This discovery is quite new.. Would appreciate help, Hillary Anderson wrote: Kinetic yogurt maker. I used Meyenburg goat milk from grocery. re: Then put it in the glass cups and put it in my yogurt maker for 8 hrs., That might simply have been too short an incubation time. First time: Organic cane sugar Inulin 2 can coconut milk BioGastrus tablets crushed Ferment 36 hours Pure liquid, awful smell, afraid to taste, 2 cans coconut cream 1can coconut milk Inulin Organic cane sugar BioGastrus tablets Ferment 30 hours. Ive been adding one crushed tablet every 5th batch, but am not sure thats necessary. Kirkinportland wrote: My yogurt at 24 hrs is usually quite firm so I stop.. Will the bacteria continue to multiply and have food to eat if I go to 36 hours?, Answered where asked earlier. re: I have since read the Wheat Belly book, Was that the original 2011 book, or the 2019 Revised & Expanded? Those effects include: Put all these effects togethercaloric reduction, increased skin health, increased bone density, fat loss, muscle gain, reduced insulin resistance, etc.and you have one of the most powerful anti-aging, youth-preserving strategies I have ever come across. They may or may not have performed lifetime outcome studies in their rodent models. Biogaia also has the usual merchandising tension of needing to recover investment and have an on-going business model. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details), In the particular case of the two strains of Lactobacillus reuteri in Biogaia Gastrus, it appears that they do not colonize the human gut on an extended basis. Yogurt Maker Automatic Digital Yoghurt Maker Machine with 8 Glass Jars 48 Ozs (6Oz Each Jar) LCD Display with Constant Temperature Control Stainless Steel . . As we always do, the Luvele kitchenhas continued to experiment and we have now discovered a key step that makes all the difference. If you notice any significant changes to the texture, smell or taste of your yogurt, you should do this sooner. I vaguely recall Dr Davis addressing breast cancer & the yogurt. Are the benefits due to: CFU amplification, and/or the exogenous metabolites, and if so do the metabolites vary by substrate, and perhaps time? Top 47 Dr William Davis Yogurt Recipe Recipes no other dairy products do this to me, no other food at all does this to me. Cannot live without it!