I simply will not limit orthodoxy to 20th century American evangelical viewsand a niche of American evangelicalism at that. Ok Michael, let me get through the weekend. People just dont like the bible when it doesnt suit their faith. Its too much temptation, too much power, causes too much pride, etc. Just one. Anonymous I know what youre speaking about there was defiantly is a we know better attitude through the church as is with any structured environment but I on at least (3) occasions took Bob to task on issues I questioned and each time he heard and reasoned with me, one time conceded, one time there was a healing between two churches and one time we agreed I was taking a bit too much license and should stay on the set point to which I conceded. That needs to stop and maybe this will be the watershed moment for that to happen. Designer Chip Foose (Overhaulin') and fabricator Jesse James (Motorcycle Mania)[8] Literally, from the time of my outcries it took 10 years, many spiritually manipulated and demonized women, and a pregnant young woman (not his wife) to cause the church and his wife to finally kick him out. We dont speculate. It was about Joshua getting into the promised land-thats why I had thought it was graduation. As per the recent report, his net worth is $ 5 million. The most disturbing part about many of these posts is the disparate amount of sympathy and even defense for the sinner relative to concern verbalized for his family and the church. Thats getting copied and pasted and saved to be used a lot in the future , Gomer MLD, I would love to meet you someday, as you are the only man I have heard of who does not struggle with this in some way.. Total identity loss. It could very well be that Coy had them take his stuff down, not the other way around. This is not a time to gloat that a prominent CC pastor has fallen. , : , . They need our prayers. told you. His picture is in every one of your posts. Did anyone see Fireproof? "We take every allegation of abuse seriously and our prayers are with all those involved as they pursue redemption and healing. Krent W, what was the one condition Jesus allowed for a divorce? Frankly, they have been the source of the majority of the venom but I think most of us realize these are people in a sort of shock at the news, who are hurting and whose trust has been violated and are lashing out. The dicey part for this church is that there is a chance that some leadership people knew this was an ongoing problem for years. And the harmony in the animal kingdom and man will no longer be afraid of the wild beasts, only of the raging false teaching Calvinists! So Coy gets the pass because it is normal and I get the ridicule. There are very few doctrinal stances in Protestantism that I find more odious than your free grace doctrines and the pre trib rapture stuff. there has been NO confirmation of what the moral failure is. In 2006, Coys church in Fort Lauderdale landed in court over claims of lax oversight. It is my hope and prayer that you find healing and peace. From the camera shots of the kids in the audience-they werent buying it. 16 The latter do so out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. This is exactly why we are to rely on God and not in man. On a Sunday evening in April 2014, thousands packed into Calvary Chapel's sanctuary, a cavernous space that looks more like a midsize city's convention center than a church. Mercy should not be misused to render punishment ineffective for both. I dont have to answer this question, since, I believe in contending for every point of doctrine, even the secondary issues. The children inside the vehicle have no pulse except Diane's son Bryan. Once again MLD is right. dont condemn someone on rumors. So we have to have a discussion on the subject: What exactly is church? Blessings on your search. Our relationships with Jesus need to matter more than getting up in front of a crowd does. If you love Me, keep My commandments. The words of our witness take to the air on the wings of our works. , Now, using your best effort, not to be like us and not being consistent, in denying the literal aspects of scripture and have to do exegetical gymnastics and use pretzel logic to try to prove their conclusions that the Bible does not mean what it says,- as you said. But on February 22 of that year, the case went to Judge Tim Bailey, a member of a powerful conservative family; his father, Patrick, founded the Pompano Beach Republican Club, and both father and son had chaired Broward's Judicial Nominating Commission. With Bob Coy I immediately think of healing for him and the family as I didnt consider him as dangerous to the body. Another explosive comment on the other blog about Coy. Im sorry for you and your pain. Every man gets tired of the same ole same ole and wants a little variety, some men just hide it better than others, or they find the outlet through porn or in their imagination, every man has a file cabinet with all kinds of images and scenes and past experiences that he pulls out when the need arises, so all those men criticizing another in this area are hypocrites. As none of George's other relatives are available to help, Mandy Young Sheldon Season 6 Episode 15: In Young Sheldon, Georgie and Mandy were never seriously dating. He was already richI, Ive seen people get black balled by him..now the shoe is on the other foot , Id like to know how long this s.. went on and the people who knew said nothing out of fear of losing their job. Daniel 9:27And he will make a firm covenant with the many FOR ONE WEEK!, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate. , Filbertz Your argument is not with me but with Jesus who said they sit in Moses seat, Therefore pay attention to what they tell you and do it. From the interviews I have heard and the people that have commented who were saved at that church who grew in that church and were serving in that church, yes it does seem like the message was right and the fruit is good and its fruit that will remain! If these Calvanistic preterists would have been around at the time when Jesus ascended into heaven, as the disciples looked up, and the angels said, why do you stand here oh men of Galillee, for in the same way you saw him ascend, he will also descend! they would probably have started arguing with the angel, no he cant come back again corporeally, it would have to be spiritually, because its something that our little tiny minds cant understand, we have to reinterpret what you angels are saying, it must mean a spiritual return, dont you hear them saying, it must mean a spiritual mark on the forehead, it must mean a symbolic 1000 years, it must mean a symbolic 7 years. and on and on they go, they remind me of the Sadducees, who denied the miraculous, well the Preterists have nothing to look forward to as we live in exciting times and see prophecies unfolding before our eyes, they are the nay saying Sadducees of our time, and they want to be included within the pale of orthodoxy, as they follow doctrines that deny the power of God and negate the promises of his soon return! Deny that all you want, its the truth and you are a foolish if you think he is not doing his best to forget this happened for awhile. Personally I think Hughs comments are refreshing and realistic. It boggles my mindboggles itthat you want to haggle over the terms of removal of someone who we now know had at least two affairs and a porn problem. fscaduto, WELL PUT and that was precisely my point early on. If I were in sin, my church would handle it and those who needed to know would know. Do you realize that you rightly distinguished Bob Coy as a mere man from Jesus Christ the head of His Church and in the next sentence wrongly ascribed to Bob the works and fruit of Jesus Christ? Not only of church/pastors in my past, but unfortunately, I know too well the pain Diane Coy is feeling having been there myself. May the same be done to Bob Coy. You wait your turn. This didnt HAPPEN to him He HAPPENED to many others. Andy, did you get your 691 out of a Chick comic book? David Jeremiah was right. By my count, only 7 including myself have listed your names. That isnt my fault. When Jesus said The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. he was not saying. Bob Coy, at Liberty University's convocation in 2013. We dont really know why God didnt send the Gospel message to most of humanity and we dont know why God doesnt make us sin no more when we are supposedly saved. Whats the big deal, so he diddled a few broads, werent they consenting adults, how can anyone judge, maybe they had an open marriage, comman people relax its only sex, it only last a few minutes, what is that, like less than 5% of all the other things hes doing for the church, leave the guy alone, I dont see any women complaining, didnt King David have a few dozen women standing in the wings waiting for their turn, and how bout Solomon, a few hundred to choose from, well dont read their works in your Bible then, and isnt every pastor guilty of adultery if you take Jesus words seriously, that to look upon a woman with lust youve already committed adultery, using this criteria shouldnt every pastor in America be fired, give the guy a break, hes a good teacher, everyone strays a little bit and has a little strange on the side, many wives know this and realize it doesnt mean anything, just a little release. Pastor Bob will be focusing his full attention on his personal relationship with God and with his family. Mr. Newnham.what is your source on this? Coy's preaching career ended with shocking speed, but his sex scandal was far from the first for Calvary Chapel. Michael, my cell phone is if You have anything youd like to say to me. Things like not drinking beer or lusting after women. well then go ahead by all means please cast the first stone. Just saying. May you find love and fulfillment with a significant other who will love and accept your world view. I learned a long time ago that the first look is not sin its just temptation. How pointing out all these passages that you freely spiritualize help your claim of a literal 1,000 yr earthly reign is beyond me. The Bible is brutally honest about the failings of the heros of the faith. Adultery creates a ripple effect that grows outward and touches so many lives not just the two involved and it takes two willing participants to maintain. And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well! Charles Ward Chuck Smith (June 25, 1927 October 3, 2013) was an American pastor who founded the Calvary Chapel movement.Chuck Smith (pastor). 5And one of the elders said to me, Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals. 6And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth. It also seems to be an across the board thing crossing doctrinal and denominational lines not limited to one type of church governance.. Michael, you agree with 0% of the things that come out of my mouth, so calling me ludicrous is only adding to the list of pejoratives Ive accumulated from you . We are all human and all the same essentiallythough fundamentalist Islam seems to be the worst religious ideology of all-time and the most dangerous and destructive. YOU are wrong. Then go to the board of CCFTL and get it. BD, how can you say youre not a Calvinist and yet stand idly by while they pervert the scriptures and negate the truth and promises of God, sounds like youve been brainwashed by 600 years of lies! You got that right, MLD is probably 300 lbs., sitting on a big leather sofa eating popcorn as he writes, with three cats purring around him, while his wife yells from the other room, get off the computer and take the trash out as he answers in a moment, I gotta write one more thing, I have no sympathy for adulterers, may they rot in hell! And then he prays to himself, Thank you God that I am not like that Bob Coy!. I should not even have put that but I couldnt resist it, him and his 10 million dollar estate. In 2004, he even campaigned with Dubya around South Florida. She may be one to something. They pop up on our husbands e-mail, Facebook, etc. "They do what they feel is right based on the evidence they have.". Ok. we still want to see evidence. people need to vent, to be angry, to feel betrayed and to weep. CCFtl was the only Bible based church for miles. This is irritating. Jean, this went on at a large church I attended for awhile and when I questioned it I was told it was a common practice, having what they called aKings Circle. where Jesus, in speaking of his return, spoke of this 1,000 yr earthly reign. Payne had taken his case against Fort Lauderdale Police Maj. Eric Brogna to the Broward County State Attorney's Office, but prosecutors declined to press charges. Want it to stop. The abuse lasted until she was a teenager, she told the cop. Also read the 2nd to last paragraph from June. Welcome to those who found this blog due to Bob Coys fall, my heart and prayers go out to you as you navigate this difficult time. Thoughts and prayers go out to a fallen brother, his wife and children, his church family and the church leadership as they determine the scriptural course of action. We made a covenant, a lifelong commitment, so we both choose to honor each other and grow old together, day by day, raise a family and, some day, have our children bury us. Even her real son couldnt muster any rage. I was there. #473, great post. No one really being in charge overseeing what was going on. Megachurch Founder Bob Coy Accused of Molesting 4-Y-O, Sexually Abusing Her Into Her Teens. Sad, very sad because this affects many congregations, not just FTL. Why is same-sex marriage an issue in the election of the new Scottish First Minister? Im over 40, never married, do not view porn, and am still a virgin and guess what? Something wrong there. Return to homepage. You bring him up every time you post, because you are his disciple.
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