That's why I won't model one single model for online sale until this heinous situation is rectified. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair, max c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max. 5. Especially if the buyer asks to change something in the configuration of models or to clarify details. If a company like Disney or NASA buys a model at TS, they advertise it as "Turbosquid customers buying Turbosquid models". 2. I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). Doing the same at Turbosquid feels as dreadful as applying for a driver's license. Maybe they think Ts provides almost same model but its just better, etc. I could go on and on, it kept me puzzled. For example, I ran into this this morning. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. For some people with experience that did the math taking all factors in count (not talking about just NoneCG, of course) it was crystal clear since many years ago. For me CGTrader is the best and CGTrader has the best structure of a 3d site !!! Since you havent contacted us about any of these changes being incorrect, we are resetting prices on these models one final time (see the attached CSV file listing these models). I started uploading on a few sites and TS was one of them and I can tell you now that that place is a mess. i have sold it to millenium shipping containers amongst other professional business. I think these are questions that every 3D content creators must honestly answer for themselves. Think about your future: Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. In regards to product awareness and marketing it is also nice to have some special user cases to show off, there is no room to collect user case data in the Ts model. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. If the assumption is correct that a client goes to TS by default as a reflective action, "huh, there's another site, didn't know that! It still remains a puzzle to me, were those few now actually using their CGt account because there was no other way or did I just lose those and just gained some new clients from somewhere ells? for someone that is a little more unique. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. I agree structural arrangements need to be done to support this bud it needs to be done in a way so it supports the main axiom of openness. I agree that these two parts - CG and 3D printing should be split at least externally/ visually. The utopian view here is a successful merge of all related activities (or at least part), connecting as much people as possibly can that are doing something that could potentially involve 3D, and in doing so eventually streamline part of the global 3D marketplace and increase the amount of successful transactions between many possible parties. Advertising? Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. If you manage to get lots of buyers on there you could make a real fortune. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. They call that "3D Industry" on the download report .. it's rare but it's happend (one time for me) That's how they won and that is how you succeed in business. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. CGtrader staff admits to some degree to this problem (see the comment of Dalia Lasaite) and promises to redesign the homepage. If you continue to price your models higher on TurboSquid, you will will not be able to publish your content on TurboSquid, and we will temporarily take your current models offline. Dear adentonclark, My sales are not still on par with TS, but I haven't published new models for quite some time, because I only have time to create models to enter challenges from time to time. This is inherently due to the fact that computers are still very bad when it comes to optimization processes, human brains are far more superior in sorting out things. It would be mess. BUT this is still not as infuriating as a personal account falling once a month with all the statistics! - Crowdfunding to improve the CGtrader presence in the market. If I run the same test on Turbosquid or The3DStudio, I get almost exclusively original characters. Old thread but still relevant, do yourself a favour and cut back on the seafood, delete TS bookmarks and make progress here. Does anyone sale something on Cgtrader?where are customers. They may not end up following your ideas, but they will certainly take them into account. But i think its not only the responsability of cgtrader to turn this around. After 60 days, we will put your content back online. @skifx, @made21, my royalty rate is 80% and i earn from each sale from 72% to 77% depending on the model's price - the pricier the model is, the lesser payment processing fee gets. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. the success of CGTrader (and other sites as well) contributed to that. After that response I selected all my models and took them offline. Checkmate is the only good thing Turbosquid has left to offer. - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects Besides how about your right to fair trade? No matter what the Wisdoms offer you now, they will make you pay x10 later once they are done with their competitors (again). Turbosquid is basically a pyramid scheme for the most part unless you are established and have been in the top rank for many years. I like, CG Trader is ascent. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. I am new starter here. On top of that they have so many odd restrictions and hoops you need to keep jumping through just to make your model visible and people end up having to buy diamond accounts because they know they won't sell a single model unless they do. Matt Wisdom describes Turbosquid as "a sort of Ebay" when in fact Turbosquid works exactly the same as classic "supermarket providers" where the reseller profits the most from the producers by keeping them totally apart from the customers. In this case the fastest support can not help. Here is a quick test that can help understand why there aren't so many buyers. No, I don't think it's just about SEO. Yes, at this point the level of sales of the TS is higher than the CGTrader and TS has a more flexible search system. We all agree that CGT is the better site and needs to win the fight but we all need to reach out to the really influential people and make sure they start promoting the site or we won't win. The very best thing I find on CGT is the disponibility of the team. Dude, I have from 500$ a month at SGtride and i don't feed fat Turbosquid bastards. TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. ,,The only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job,,?? AFAIK buyers right to be refunded is protected by law. However, if you are found to be out of compliance again, your collection will be taken offline for a more extended period of time. [quote]2. And reasons can be any. You want to put it in your store but it obviously needs some work to make it marketable. In my personal opinion TS is working very hard towards buyers and exploits sellers as much as they can, well except few chosen ones, while CGT is taking great care about sellers, but leaving buyers somewhat aside. my main income its still TS. 60% is an insult. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. I think that the ones that do come here to buy CG models might not return if they get fed up while searching for the right one. And something ells , I have seen people criticize the young inexperienced and even blame them to some point for some negative experiences over here. Look for the big picture and think medium/long term. For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. and cgtrader is easy to navigate and great UI, Turbosquid is a very shit comparing to CGTrader, i dont like turbosquid i prefer CGtrader absolutely, I think it is more comfortable to use. In previous post the buyer mentioned he don't get reputation points for buying models? It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. Very soon there will be robots that can scan objects faster than any modeler can model them and then reproduce a print almost instantly in 10 to 30 years 3D jobs will be irrelevant but until then someone needs to really bring CGtrader to the big markets. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. Looks to me like they are providing a very content creator friendly environment. When you search for specific models car, bike etc you usually end up finding a bunch of irrelevant models in there that don't even belong in that category and that is largely due to the fact that, they allow users to setup their own tags So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. If it is true that other sites are taking a higher margin and a larger slice of profit share, they have some kind of capital to work magic with, both with artists who are accepting less and buyers who are paying more. Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. I still get more sales on TS, despite having adjusted all prices to compensate their extortions. If the buyer decided to buy after inspecting a sample, the seller would deduct the sample price from another 3d model. If I narrow to "man", it's even worse : 64 out of 128 models displayed are scanned 3d models. It doesn't matter if the printing industry is growing fast. - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". Maybe it is unnecessary complex? You have to choose a category to get a refresh. Got my model (https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/cabinet/handles-vol-01-pbr) So the staff there tries to work For small buyers this is likely the case, but serious corporate buyers may have other priorities atop of lowest price. So, Ts will probably have a few thousand lawsuits to issue in following months if they like. @skifx, apparently your feeding hand is just too small. If a model you like does not have a suitable file format, be sure to see whether the designer offers free file conversions for the model. The other issue is that Turbosquid has been out there for longer. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. We state our opinions based on verifiable facts and stats, which is one of the most interesting parts of this thread. While sellers will be disadvantaged in many interests. and resurrect it without that 3dprinting nonsense. Just condemn this type of fear tactics right-away and start supporting better organizations. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! The Ts model does not support such thing and is not up to the task of modern time needs for this industry. From buyer perspective, i think CGTrader also have lots of advantages. In one case, the model is promising, commercial, and then set a high price. Most of the Ts artists also moved their work over here and almost everyone knows that, just not the ones hoe are exclusive, it's not going to take too long now before they systematically start breaking the exclusive contract when they see sales going down every month and things going up over here. Chat with Support 24/7 In fact, 61% comes out against 40%, since the paypal commission on cgtrader is borne by the seller, the site pays commission on turbosquid. The response back was, if they are not adjusted end of the week then we will adjust them. To my amazement something ells also happened, there where still a few people buying my more expensive models on Ts. i think they both have there place . Free models are posted for lots of different reasons, not just only to serve as an example to show of artist modeling skills/quality of work (sample data). A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. the only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job posting area. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. it is a sad reality, some sellers are ready to buy a model of their competitor to post a bad rating. Site issues? I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. Both are still growing, but it seems CGtrader is growing much more. I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. (e.g. Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. This is why: In the long run I'm going to quit selling on TS also. Dear adentonclark, http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/d7b76144-43db-4cbe-b27b-8ea42b3a7cb0/TurboSquid_Low_Sales.png https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/woman/female-hand-realistic https://www . You said you have considered closing your store here, I get that but why not just keep it up? I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" I have to agree with Limonadinis on this without a good search engine function we loose many clients to Turbosquid. Its great way to compete and fair . Also you need to think about the advantage of not having to worry about shipping costs etc with digital art. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. So here on CGt I could have just asked the buyer if he would be interested in that sort of deal. - Forcing people to choose a proper tagging to their objects so that we don't get scanned high poly print-ready objects in the way when we tick the "low-poly" filter, The title says it all!1. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. I agree with the last post, searching for models should not be a pain. I really think that a "designer good practices charter" or something like that could help. Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. What I saw after that was a 50 to 50 ration decrease on Ts and increase on my CGt account. - Guides/Tips for sellers regarding prices/quality to minimize the undercutters problem. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. All that time that we didn't have to spent dealing with Turbosquid bad support went to more time for artistic work. CGTrader has the better platform from my point of view, better rates if i remember correct. Regarding sales, for me personally CGtrader is in lead with a small margin for almost 5 months in row now, I'm confident the difference will get even bigger (so let's be realistic Ts sales is dropping dramatically). I will very much want to peruse. I don't think it's possible to have WORKING site with both 3d printing and classic models. The claim Turbosquid made was that it infringed on Games Workshop IPs. I'm not sure about your analysis. disavantages: low budget clients willing to get low quality models for 5$. This is the Tesla Model 3. So if I am looking after regular CG models, afters a few minutes search, my logical choice is not to search on CGTrader but rather on "old-fashioned" sites. Then someone ells will just create another CGt alike and Ts would have to keep buying these places ones a year, and after that it would have to buy them every month. 2. I agree to what captainmarlowe is telling. Logout from your account and go to CGTrader home page. Toys (212) Buy or download free 3D models for your CG projects, film and video production, animation, visualizations, games, VR/AR, and others. If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ So in this case you could say we are the asses and there's lots of us so we form a huge ass and CGt can place many chairs for us to sit on ;-) Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. So let's hope that at some point, the designers of the site will establish some filters to guarantee a minimal quality and, why not, a "good practice charter" for the sellers, or that they will explain some sellers that their attitude is not good in the long term for the site credibility. However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). If you are a buyer you don't have a lot of time to find what you want especially if you are buying on behalf of your company. Respect and good luck to everyone who is here! i think cgtrader can grow stronger with higher quality traffic. CGTrader is extremely accessible, perhaps too much so for its own good in some lights. flob3d: I don't know if Jonathan invented the CheckMate, but what I can say is that Jonathan is a good professional and he often helped me a lot, so I have no complaints to make. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. or I can just sell on cgt and artstationm marketplace? found jet another working example that makes CGt stand out. You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. In order to post an answer, you need to sign in. . For me is more offending that kids are able to sell models here. I don't know if Turbo Squid allows licence ownership to be transferred as i never got that far with them. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. My current store on CGTrader includes numerous items that were deemed to be infringing upon GW IP (link below). You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. Turbosquid has a horrendous up-loader what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know.
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