Phase-detection autofocus is much faster than a contrast detection autofocus, allowing for sharper images. They didn't say it's a different sensor, they said different technology. In a world where newer camera models are expected to have more features not less, the Leica M262 doesnt really fit into the normal upgrade path camera manufacturers offer. without having to transfer the images to the computer first. A few years later I sold all my Nikon DLSR kit and switched to Sony full frame A7 cameras and began to realise just how useful it can be. The wider width of the M240 has never bothered me but the new M10 does look good a little slimmed down. Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. A larger sensor will capture more light, which results in improved low-light performance, dynamic range, and general image quality. As such, it felt like itd be the perfect camera for me. From what I understand the M10 has substantially improved this feature and this is an attractive change. Now, that update costs thousands of dollars. It is the first position on the menu, and setting WB on a grey card or to a preset is a matter of 3 or 4 clicks.Colors. With AF tracking, once you choose the subject and press the shutter release part way down, as the subject moves, the autofocus will follow it. The M240 feels, well, fuller. It does take lovely photos however and I dont mind using I most of the time but. I dont need to get excited by them dont get me wrong, theres fun in a camera that provides some sort of novelty initially, but longer-term I just need my cameras to work in a way that suits me. It was designed and released after the M240 to offer an option to photographers who didnt need the bells and whistles the M240 had to offer. Source: DxOMark. Waiting for the fishy in the little dishy by Gil Aegerter, Lava Lizard on Marine Iguana by ZimmWisdom. Having said that, I think the M262 could be a perfect digital rangefinder camera for those looking for a minimal film-camera like digital Leica experience and not needing live view or other features.
5 Reasons To Buy a Second-Hand Leica M-D Typ 262 The sensor is not the same, by the way.
Monochromatic Rendering - Comparing the Leica M10, Leica M240, Leica I took the M240 because it offeres live view. All our Contributors have an ad-free experience for life.Sign uphere. I remember when live-view first started appearing on interchangeable lens digital cameras. 35mmc is a blog authored, edited and published by Hamish Gill featuring daily articles submitted by readers. Compared to the M9 Ive found less of a problem with magenta shift, especially in skin tones, though its fair to say the bias is still toward magenta as opposed the the green bias I found in my Sonys especially the older and cheapest ones that had frankly horrible colour-science. Same lens, same settings - desaturated during RAW conversion. Paste as plain text instead, I cant even work out how to hold the Leica M240 for video, and whilst it has focus peaking, it certainly doesnt have the features the Atomos brings to the table. I currently own a 262.
Leica M Typ 262 vs M Typ 240 Specifications Comparison M262 vs M240 image quality - Leica M (Type 240 / 262) - Leica Forum I just picked up a Leica M-P Typ 240 to compliment my new M9-P I bought a couple weeks ago. With ACR, my standard daylight setting for the M240 is 5300/10, while with the M262, it is 5000/0, both with embedded profile. The M10 has the new ISO wheel on the top left. I would have bought a 90 Macro lens if I had live view on the camera even though Ive already got a Nikon with 105 Macro. This has all the advantages of shooting raw, while taking up much less storage space. For more articles on 35mmc about the subject matter discussed here, please click one of the following tag links: Contribute to 35mmc for an Ad-Free Experience. Leica M Typ 240. Having live-view is great and the screen is an improvement but its too big for an M and the files look/feel like something that came out of a Sony. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-banner-1','ezslot_12',185,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-banner-1-0'); As it turned out, I would find more advantages with the Leica M262 when I got it. All the added features that the M240 brought to the table didnt really appeal to me, and specifically because I didnt think I was interested in live view, I felt that all the M10 could offer me was an ISO dial. It uses a 24-megapixel CMOS sensor, a Maestro image processor with a near-silent shutter, and a quiet shutter-cocking motor. Im used to focus peaking from shooting video with the Sony cameras, so it was such a short leap to press the LV button and take photos in a way that felt familiar. Learn how your comment data is processed. Fortunately, whilst the control of ISO isnt quite perfect, I have found the way exposure compensation works on the Leica M262 to be a big step up from the M9. Leica M262 M-P M10 M262 Leica M-E . (Leica M Typ 240), Nikon D850 + Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24-120mm f/4G ED VR, Canon EOS 5D Mark IV + Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM, Sony Alpha a7 III + Sony FE 24-105mm f/4 G OSS, Sony a6600 + Sony E 18-135mm F3__5-5__6 OSS, Sony Alpha a7 III + Sony FE 28-70mm f/3__5-5__6 OSS, Canon EOS 5D Mark IV + Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM. With the ISO being menu driven, its also very possible to accidentally leave it on a too-high setting. Help us by suggesting a value. The EOS R6 II arrives in one of the most competitive parts of the market, facing off against some very capable competition. On same first menus screen can have File Format to pick DNG or DNG+JPG or JPG only.When you get the M10 Ill be interested to hear how you like the B&W jpg vs. your Monochrome. Its still inaccurate, but at least the photos look pleasant enough. I just recently bought a Leica M262, interestingly I read your blog and it actually helped encourage me to buy it. Then I bought an early mirrorless camera possibly a Panasonic or Sony, I cant remember which came first and I had to eat a load of humble pie. One video compares the sound of the shutter to the the M-E. Jump to content . I then had a feeling that Im sure a lot of people who have too many cameras have once in a while You might know it yourself? I find it to be a useful feature at times. The Leica M [typ 262], or M262 for short offers what's best described as a stripped-back user interface. I didnt have the energy to get into the subtleties of all that here though, LV is useful even if the screen does not move. A microphone port allows connecting external high-end or specialized microphones. Afternoon all and best wishes for a happy 2021! I didn't do any critical tests, but I feel the M262 may have around one stop advantage at high iso. I dont have and 6-bit coded lenses, or really bother with the coding, so just tend to set the minimum speed to 1/60th. These were live-view using the screen on the back or a slot in electronic viewfinder and video. After the M11 released though, used prices of the M10 dropped and I decided to get one. In fact, I pressed the LV (for live-view) button on the camera before I even took a photo. what a great text, and great pictures, thank you! Which is the better buy? Live-view with any lens I liked was fun. I think I am veering towards the M262 with the Voigtlander Ultron35mm. In fact, I caught myself using it a number of times without thinking. Mostly because I wanted to shoot below 0.7m and Id have to use Live View for that. The M262 was the stripped-back camera that came after the M240 and before the M10 and as regular readers of this website will know, I do like a stripped-back camera.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'35mmc_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_10',180,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-medrectangle-3-0'); Leica must have listened to some of their users who felt that they didnt need a lot of the features that the Leica M240 offered them, and created a camera that felt a little more like a natural progression from the M9. In short, getting two cameras- a classic and a modern type, solves the damnable inadequacy issue that arises in all of us when you own just one type. This never really bothered me about the M9, but having the issue taken away made me appreciate the issue for what it was.
262 vs 240: Leica Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review It leaves me with no desire whatsoever to upgrade at all and will be my sole digital camera for hopefully many years to come. Can you let me know where you heard that the sensor uses different technology? A series of photographs taken from the same position over a long period is joined together to create a short video. I was even contemplating selling my Leica lenses and the M3 as well, but I love using that film M system (and film photography) so much that I could not do it (at least not yet)! Im really enjoying this site since discovering it! Content contributor - become a part of the worlds biggest film and alternative photography community blog.
X-Pro2 Compared to Leica M240/262 - Digital Photography Review I use the 1.4 magnifier with my old 90mm tele-elmarit and an external viewfinder with my voigtlander 21mm f1.4 both work just fine for me. My GAS was satisfied with a Z6 with the M-to-Z adapter. So, yeah, as I said, video is just not something I want to do with a Leica M camera! The device is protected with extra seals to prevent failures caused by dust, raindrops, and water splashes. A raw image file contains minimally processed data from the image sensor. Functionalism be damned. I like to put my camera to my eye this live-view lark just doesnt appeal to me was the sort of sentence I likely uttered. The view taken by some Leica users when the M240 was released was that features like live-view and video had no place on a Leica. It is certainly one of the most economical full frame digital Leica M cameras out there, however, still a very expensive camera, even used. Yes, the image quality of the Leica M (type 240) is a step down from the Leica M9. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Literally. I will stick with my film Leica for now. Let's try another side by side Leica Monochrom - 50 Lux - click for larger and crop - Leica M 240 - click for larger. It is capable of shooting stills in a lossless compressed raw format. For my abilities and needs, I have a decent collection of film cameras (too many some might say) and an M8 which is surprisingly still better than just good and more than good enough for what I tend to photograph.But I admit to seriously considering the new Q2, That Q2 has excited a lot of people, it seems!Re. Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) A m262 is limited to the lens choice as it rangefinder view only. To seethedifference between Leica M Typ 262 vs M Typ 240 cameras we have put together Leica M Typ 262 vs M Typ 240 specs comparison tablebelow. After weeks with a production Fujifilm X-T5, Chris and Jordan have some final thoughts. In short, I generally find myself not needing to tweak the colours at all from the M262, which is something I quite appreciate. Dont get me wrong Hamish, if I didnt have to give the Taxman an additional sum equal to a Leica M10 last Spring, Id have been tempted! Last thursday I thought for a few moments about selling my complete gear because of the new Q2, but then I thought about my beloved Summicron 90 from 1973 and my Tele Elmar 135 from 1963 and my Summilux 50 from 2017 and then I said to me: No!, I cannot sell them, I am not a fan of 28 mm.The only tiny shortcoming is for me the limitation of the maximum shutter speed (60 sec) and sometimes I miss an autofocus. I have preview turned off too and use it like I do my M6. Pera I think you might be giving a little to much benefit of the doubt there . It was mentioned in LFI first issue of 2016. In case youre confused, the M240 was the camera that followed the Leica M9. Controls feel well balanced and satisfyingly precise. great output, but cant get a shot off faster than with the M8. My primary reasons for upgrading were: better high ISO capabilities ie. The maximum ISO at which the device still captures excellent quality images.
Leica M (Typ 262) vs Leica M10: What is the difference? - VERSUS Having run the gamut of all the Ms, Ive settled on these two as my main M system and I suggest to others who cant shake the M bug to do something similar. Anyone have both that could provide a side by side? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Source: DxOMark. (Leica M (Typ 262)) CIPA is an independent, standard measurement that determines how many shots a camera can take before the battery dies. It was the third major iteration of colour digital Leica M rangefinder, and the first to use a CMOS type sensor. As I said at the end of that post, I then found myself in with a big chuck of the dreaded GAS. The M10 is also very slightly lighter than the M240. Expanded ISO allows you to go beyond the native ISO. I pressed the shutter button to take a photo and was fairly disappointed to see that the image the live-view screen had showed me was now captured as a photo. You have to ask yourself, . As John said it beforeendless upgrades, hours to spend to edit files, digital, you take even more picturesthe iso dial is nice, but I prefer (for the sake of creativity versus being too convenient) Film and stick to my a la carte M7 with one lensecalms down your mind. It does make me wonder if they could have slimmed down this body like the M10, were they to have released this camera as a major upgrade rather than a stripped-back sidestep from the M240. "MM-P""" Leica M Typ240MM-P Typ240 In practice, this has translated into me being able to shoot it for a lot longer without having to think about changing or charging the battery. Usability is great (with some of the limitations you mentioned), and image quality of the 262 is certainly superb, and the main reason (aside from usability and a good sensor), at least for me, the Leica M glass, is a topic somebody else can cover much better than I can. With some apprehension, I took the memory card out of the camera and put it into the computer. As the cameras are meant to have identical sensors, do we think this is just new owner's biased impressions (nothing wrong with that btw) is could there be something in this? I love using that camera but want a digitals instant gratification and ease of image development (Im lazy). I use 3rd generation Sony A7 cameras with a cage and a big hand grip with a mic and an Atomos Ninja V external screen bolted to it. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_17',188,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0'); Overall, these changes made the move from the M9 to M262 feel greater than the sum of their parts. The M Typ 240 can record in Full HD at 24, 25 or 30fps. Ive had it for a month now. Thanks a lot for all your helpful comments. Thank you @Jeff Sfor this and also your sage comments re not having to use video and not having to use LV on the M240. M240 v. M246 v. M262 v. Monochrom 246. This includes the M10-R, M10-P, M10 Monochrom, M10, and M10-D from the current generation, as well as the M (Typ 240), M-P (Typ 240), M (Typ 262), M-D (Typ 262) and the M Monochrom (Typ 246) from the prior generation. I think, at least, Ive not tried one either . And thats pushing it. Possibly Leica got the Bayer filter from a different supplier making the change needed. When I was looking at replacing my M9 with a newer model which I did in large part for the benefit of a better screen on the back I chose to skip the Leica M240 due to the fact that I didnt feel like the swathe of features it had compared to the later M262 offered me any advantage. Id probably buy a new car. If you half press the shutter to leave the menu without pressing SET the ISO remains what it was set to before. - 35mmc, https://matthewtrader.com/leica-m262-review-after-photographing-my-nieces-5th-birthday-party, Nikon 28ti and 35ti - Mini-Review - By Ahmed Al Shorouqi, 5 frames with the Nikon FM2 & Agfa APX 400 in my Paris - By Martina Rigotti, Camera, Lens, Film and Peripheral Kit Reviews. Its based on the body of the M240, but as Ive said, when it was released it was pitched as a more affordable stripped-back camera with less features. The M9 and CCD sensor. I have purchased an M262 and, given my budget, a Voigtlander Ultron 35mm (which I have read is actually a really good lens). With the M9, just going out for a day I would take two batteries. Thats why the M-D 262 and the M 262 have the same type name. For a start, the battery in the M262 was a lot bigger than that in the M9. I did eventually get the 1.25 viewfinder magnifier to go with it. I dont need such features on my Leica rangefinders these are real cameras that I use properly, I dont need live-view with my real cameras! With the wrong card, the wait before the shutter is again available is bad. This page is currently only available in English. First you have to press the ISO button, then use the thumb dial to scroll to the ISO you want, then finally either press SET or the INFO button to lock it in. I'm not sure if it's ok to show a snapshot of the LFI article. TheLeica M (Typ 262) has a pared-down feature set, an extra quiet shutter unit and a lower price than theM Typ 240. The SET and the ISO buttons are much more useful though to be honest, I personally dont even use the stuff in the set menu either.
Leica M262 My guess is that many of the Leica purists won't be bothered at all by this decision. But, as someone who shoots, buys and sells a lot of different lenses, the bigger screen would definitely offer me an advantage Id be able to take photos and check lenses were calibrated properly etc. Im not going to go into details here to be honest. If you want video and live view, get the 240. Without looking, apart from the lens detection options, I couldnt tell you whats in the menu at all. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. dslr . You can get two M-Ps (old and new) for the same price as one M10.
GEAR - Leica M Typ 262 - Long term review - Vogelius And so I had to do a paradoxical thing. Edward - you are right about the blues and reds. M262 is simple M240 less some features not necessary to still picture but in M240, those features can be ignored. Additionally, I really like the simplified look and small upgrades the MP versions offer. Intro Sample Images Lenses Specs Performance. Which despite it feeling like something that would really suit me as someone who prefers to operate without the need for any sort of menu driven interface on their cameras was still a fairly small feature for quite a lot more cash!if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_10',180,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-medrectangle-3-0'); As such I bought an M262 and fairly happily got on with shooting it for the best part of a year. I find the M262 colours different enough from the M-P I just sold - to my eye the blues, reds, aquas and purples feel denser. Your link has been automatically embedded. The better screen, slightly improved interface and even fairly small things like the artificially lit frame lines introduced in the M240 made the the camera feel more mature. These were features I wanted to explore whilst I had this camera though I really had very low expectations that they would do much for me. (Free 3-day trial)Subscribe here. You can post now and register later. . I use along the two M240/262/etc. Forget is a strong word. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. As is the image quality of the M10. It seemed it was not much larger than an M7; that, alone, was enough to make me decide I would own one someday.
Leica M (Typ 262) - Wikipedia Its funny, the M262 seems to be the Leica camera that people forget.
m240m-p240! It offered a more stripped back feature set than the M240, but it does still have live view. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. Shooting with the Leica M262 in manual ISO takes 3 commands to change and set the ISO. Simple. Yet all the buttons on it and the LCD still have me pining for Leicas. The resolution is given as a compound value, comprised of horizontal and vertical pixels. I have had good luck with Sonys latest fast SD cards, improving this condition quite well. Although it may be possible to choose among other frame rates, those recordings usually have lower resolutions. Contribute to 35mmc for an Ad-Free Experience-, Leica M8 A Year with an Ageing Digital Rangefinder By Rui Hu, Panasonic GM1 Review: A Digital ILC Alternative to the Olympus XA2? If you dont plan to use ur leica more than that range of focal lengths then M262 is right for you. As an M10 owner I should say that yes, this camera is definitely a less is more sort of gadget.
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